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  Good time for R&F to preemptively question GB validity

  by irondork in

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  with the new light in the july 15 watchtower, now might be the perfect time for rank and file members to question wether or not the big boys are who they say they are.

  in light of the fact that the men who claim to be the sole channel of communication for all mankind could not even grasp their own identity for the last 100 years, wouldn't now be a good time to turn the tables on the elders who are so quick to drag a questioning dub to the back room and demand loyalty to the governing body?.

  wouldn't now be a good time to put the july 15 watchtower in the middle of the table and ask to see the credentials on these men without fear of being suspected of apostacy?

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  Yep. They kicked Jesus out of his position also. look at the 4/2013 WT where they have the entire organization pictured EXCEPT Jesus. isn't he the head of the congregation?

  I brought this up to a familymember who is an elder and he just looked at me with a disgusted stare and said "What, do you expect Jesus to be in every picture?"

  I replied, "If they're showing the entire organization from God's throne down to the publisher, and Christ is the head of the congregations then he should be there!"

  Didn't make a dent.
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  Good time for R&F to preemptively question GB validity

  by irondork in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the new light in the july 15 watchtower, now might be the perfect time for rank and file members to question wether or not the big boys are who they say they are.

  in light of the fact that the men who claim to be the sole channel of communication for all mankind could not even grasp their own identity for the last 100 years, wouldn't now be a good time to turn the tables on the elders who are so quick to drag a questioning dub to the back room and demand loyalty to the governing body?.

  wouldn't now be a good time to put the july 15 watchtower in the middle of the table and ask to see the credentials on these men without fear of being suspected of apostacy?

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  ADCMS: There was another recent post on JWN regarding a doctrinal point highlighted at the 2012 DC. An Elder and his wife argued that the point was never said in the program, and that the JW that told them about it was promoting "apostate" ideas. That same JW located a recording of that demonstration on the program and played it for the Elder and his wife. After hearing for themselves that it was a WT teaching and was indeed on the DC program, the couple suddenly "forgot" they labelled it as an apostate teaching and went on to defend it (because now they knew it came from WT, so magically it was no longer "apostate").

  I posted that and here's the link. It was shocking how deep the mind control went. They even told me that apostates had messed with the recording on Youtube! until they heard it on their own recording!!

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/245733/1/Discussion-with-family-member-who-is-an-Elder-in-our-congregation
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  New here.

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone.i have been reading the blogs here for some time and have just decided to have an in put.

  i am still a current member of the wts and am sort of planning to fade.

  i realise 2 things (1)i have to build bridges in order to replace the ones that will crumble behind.

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  Welcome! Glad to have you here with us.
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  New here, well, sort of...

  by L3G in

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  been lurking here for years but finally decided to come out, at least partially.

  of all things, the post of 'bats in the belfry' re: the supposed break up of gb member geoffrey jackson and his cute (ex-?

  ) fiancee a few days ago spurred me to do so.

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  Welcome glad to have you here with us on this forum
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  Reflecting on my JW life

  by Gojira_101 in

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  sorry i have been m.i.a lately...life got very busy for me.. this morning i woke up at 5:30 and couldn't get back to sleep because i was having many thoughts running through my head.

  my grandma shunning me, what it was like for me as a jw and i remembered something that i thought i would share.

  guess i'm needing some group therapy today :).

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  Ditto, what she said. Big hug to you Sweetie, both of you.

  Funny thing Gojira said to me not too long ago....

  Mom, Hubby & I were reading that for every year you are in a cult it takes 3 months to recover. So we were just adding it up and we've discovered that out of everyone in our family its going to take you the longest. I believe it was 12 years. So basically, I'm so screwed up, that I'll never be normal again. Which is fine, because I never really grew up anyway and just want to have fun.
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  Any ex elder/bethelite willing to talk/email with awakening JW?

  by SeekingTheRealTruth in

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  i am mostly a lurker here..i check this website everyday.

  my husband and i left the religion 3 years ago.

  all my family were active jws when we left, but that is all changing now.

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  Welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here with us.
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  Newbie

  by Stubborn Disbeliever in

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  i'm new here, so i thought i'd start with an introduction and summary of my life, for the most part.

  i have a tendancy to ramble ridiculously, so bear with me :) and this will be all over the place as thoughts take over the keyboard.. i was born a 5th generation jw.

  i never really "felt" it, but was book smart about it.

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  Hey Kiddo, Glad you're here with us. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger and I hope your parents get everything they deserve.

  I know what you mean about the booze. During one of their visits, I went in a liquor store with them and saw them drop $600 just on booze.

  Love you and I know how hard this was to write, but maybe you can heal from here on out.
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  Women are better off without bras - New Study!

  by fedup in

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  great news!.

  women please read.. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/style/study-reveals-women-are-better-off-without-bras.html.

  drop those bras!!

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  Newly Enlightened

  MEN!

  I can think of one good thing in argument for bras....

  Bras help prevent the girls from getting shut in a drawer when leaning over the counter
  hahahahahah
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  so now what?

  by Kaltas1 in

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  i don't really know what to say i'm a bit nervous.

  but i am new here and i want to say thank you all for these forums and the many contributions people have made.. for about 9 months i been frequenting here and other places on the net while i have undergone an in depth bible analysis.

  after finding that my bible is not consistant with the more favorable options of translating greek words especially in key doctinal areas, i have concluded the great unlikelyhood of jehovah's witnesses having god's blessing and approval.. not just that though.

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  Welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here with us.
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  Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

  by mentallyfree31 in

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  2. beliefs

  who were your past circuit overseers?

  i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

  ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

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  We remember Chuck Volarz- He was one of Hubby's pioneer school instructors.

  Gene Fields- mid 90's real jerk. had a 'boy's club set up in our circuit and would only use those brothers for parts on conventions/assemblies.

  Donald Culp, sounds familiar. Ours did look like Steve Martin and wore really bright colored ties.

  Voake was another one. Nice guy until you dared to go after an elder for lying to you. I don't remember his first name tho.

  We had a DO by the name of David Brooks, can't forget him he was like 7 ft tall.

  Paul Smith- mid 80's??? real jerk. Wouldn't allow breaks. If he didn't like what the sisters were serving him, said so loudly and refused to eat it.

  After 49 years, those are the only ones that stand out.